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dhmartens



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Still haven't heard anything so here is another hang gliding based UFO, this time a fireball coming out of the ocean at an early 1970's Dockweiler Beach hang gliding meet:

still taken from a video taken through the wing of a possible Icarus 2 hang glider:


animated gif:


The fireball part starts at 8:39

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You can see the setting sun at 7:24 but it is setting on the horizon, not in the middle of the ocean.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

OK, I have to apologize. This is going to take more effort than I anticipated. There are over 4,000 hours of
LAGlide/NMERider videos alone that I have to sit through looking for unidentified moths and aerial anomaly.
I am looking for someone else to continue the disclosure effort, hey how about:

President Obama

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No he's no use,

How about her she just broke the glass ceiling maybe she can break the area 51 glass barrier of secrecy.
Hillary Clinton

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She'll get the job done.
For me its on the phase 2, PART A:
Reconsituting the SCHGA within USHPA.
any regional director who received votes from California residents is covered by the Brown act and
this new effort. Nearly half of all USHPA members are represented by these 6 regional directors. They should be granted new powers.

Region 3: South CA, HI
Alan Crouse (incumbent)
Ken Andrews
Pete Michelmore
REGION 2 - North CA, NV
Jon James
Josh Cohn
Jugdeep Aggarwal
Steve Rodrigues (EC, Secretary)

PART B:
suing listed regional directors for violation of:

BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONS CODE
SECTION 16600-16607
16600. Except as provided in this chapter, every contract by which
anyone is restrained from engaging in a lawful profession, trade, or
business of any kind is to that extent void.

Please, restore BobK's membership and insurance, so I can stop looking for moths in LAGlide's videos and get back to flying. Thanks.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

dhmartens wrote:
OK, I have to apologize. This is going to take more effort than I anticipated. There are over 4,000 hours of
LAGlide/NMERider videos alone that I have to sit through looking for unidentified moths and aerial anomaly....Please, restore BobK's membership and insurance, so I can stop looking for moths in LAGlide's videos and get back to flying. Thanks....

There's all manner of strange anomaly in this flic...

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Bob Kuczewski



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: SHGA Meeting April 8th, 2017 Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Back on topic, Joe Faust and I attended the SHGA Board meeting yesterday. The meeting went very smoothly, and in the new business section I expressed an interest in flying at Sylmar again. The Board was very gracious in laying out the restrictions on non-USHPA members, and Ken Andrews walked the boundaries with Joe and I.

At the end of the tour I pointed out that USHPA's expulsion was forcing me to appeal directly to landowners (such as the County of Los Angeles), and I asked Ken - who is a USHPA Director - about looking into reversing my expulsion. Ken again reiterated that I would first have to agree to stop bringing complaints about Torrey Pines to the San Diego City Council. I began to respond with the unconstitutionality of that requirement when Ken abruptly ended the conversation and walked away.

USHPA: A monopoly insurance company and a corrupt DMV ... all rolled into one.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Here we go:
I wish I could have seen BobK and JoeF at the
"Beavis and Butthead do SHGA BOD Meeting"


".. forcing me to appeal directly to landowners.."
This brings back memories of when landowners tried to ban hang gliding in Los Angeles County. This cannot be a popular course of action.


"... I would first have to agree to stop bringing complaints about Torrey Pines to the San Diego City Council. .."
This sounds a lot like the Paramount/CBS/Axanar Fan Film Settlement. Maybe its not perfect but if they are serious we can all move forward and everyone is better off.

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Long version of Axanar settlement if interested

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Still all this is due to Mark Forbes Ego and if he is clean as a whistle, a billionaire with the same surname may not be and the Feds could target him being understood it would stop when the Mark Forbes ego problems stops.
Handle it anyway you want to no one will ask any questions.



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Bob Kuczewski



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bob wrote:
".. forcing me to appeal directly to landowners.."


dhmartens wrote:
This cannot be a popular course of action.


It's the only course of action USHPA has given me, and - ironically - it may lead to the removal of USHPA insurance requirements at many government owned sites.

The California Recreational Use laws already protect land owners from liability. Governments will have a difficult time requiring membership in an organization that expels members for testifying in court or petitioning their elected officials. USHPA's actions in my expulsion have robbed them of any standing as the "self-regulation" arm of our sport(s).

The USHPA Board threw away 40 years of member insurance payments when they didn't heed my warnings about the Torrey paragliding mill, and they threw away 40 years of respected self-regulation when they expelled me for testifying in a court case.

USHPA will do its best to "rally the troops" against me, and it will be sad to lose more of my friends. But USHPA did this to themselves and they're only trying to deflect blame by making me the scape goat. Going after scape goats never solves problems, but it does distract the easily distracted.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well you have the spirit and the letter of the law on your side.
http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/california-recreational-immunity-46735/
"..The Court of Appeal affirmed the trial court's entry of summary judgment in favor of Defendants and held that the text of section 846 is extremely broad and relieves landowners of liability for "any injury" to person caused by "any act" of the recreational user. .."

"...This case is an example of the California court's protection of landowners who encourage recreational use of their lands, and extends California's recreational immunity in an effort to further protect landowners from injuries which occur on adjacent lands and to persons who are not participants or spectators to the recreational activity. .."

https://barrypgoldberg.com/be-careful-out-there-the-recreational-immunity-statute-could-preclude-liability/
"..The recreational use immunity statute expresses the strong legislative policy that private land should be open for recreational use. (Hubbard v. Brown (1990) 50 Cal.3d 189, 192.) “Section 846 was enacted to encourage property owners to allow the general public to engage in recreational activities free of charge on privately owned property. .."


It is Forbes spreading stories true or not that people do bring lawsuits and defending those will cost $50,000 so insurance is necessary.

https://lawschooltuitionbubble.wordpress.com/original-research-updated/lawyers-per-capita-by-state/
According to this link there are 165,952 lawyers in California.

At any rate with the restroom completed as soon as the toilet paper dispenser is installed Cornholio will have TP.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

dhmartens wrote:
Well you have the spirit and the letter of the law on your side.
http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/california-recreational-immunity-46735/
"..The Court of Appeal affirmed the trial court's entry of summary judgment in favor of Defendants and held that the text of section 846 is extremely broad and relieves landowners of liability for "any injury" to person caused by "any act" of the recreational user. .."

"...This case is an example of the California court's protection of landowners who encourage recreational use of their lands, and extends California's recreational immunity in an effort to further protect landowners from injuries which occur on adjacent lands and to persons who are not participants or spectators to the recreational activity. .."

https://barrypgoldberg.com/be-careful-out-there-the-recreational-immunity-statute-could-preclude-liability/
"..The recreational use immunity statute expresses the strong legislative policy that private land should be open for recreational use. (Hubbard v. Brown (1990) 50 Cal.3d 189, 192.) “Section 846 was enacted to encourage property owners to allow the general public to engage in recreational activities free of charge on privately owned property. .."


Those are 2 very good articles and precedents. Thanks for the research!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My Exxon and Chevron stock holdings currently prevent ufo disclosure however.
why don't they polish these orbs?

And 20 million year old female pilots on the moon change everything.


Ken if Bob goes 30 days without a San Diego City Council appearance, immediately restore his membership or NASA will suffer the consequences.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

What a wonderful Spring Air Fest, even the music was good.

But What did Ken Andrews mean when he said "I was looking for a radical change in style,"

Maybe John Holt & The Paragons can elaborate

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Hooligans, hooligans stop for a while
Change your hooligan style
Don't fight your brothers
You must use your head
Give a helping hand instead

Ooh what a great sensation
When love is in your soul
Spread it across the nation
Hooliganism is cold
Let only love fill your soul
Fill up your soul

What a man gain by doing wrong
Only letting down mankind
Check on yourself if you're doing alright
Forget about your pride

Ooh what a great sensation
When love is in your soul
Spread it across the nation
Hooliganism is cold
Let only love fill your soul
Fill up your soul

(..)

Hooligan, hooligan stop for a while
Change your hooligan style
Don't fight your brothers
You must use your head
Give a helping hand instead

Oh what a great sensation
When love is in your soul
Spread it across the nation
Hooliganism is cold
Let only love fill your soul
Fill up your soul
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