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Bob Kuczewski



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:28 am    Post subject: Re: Reply to Ken Andrews Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

On November 3, 2017, Bob Kuczewski wrote:
On September 23, 2017, Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Ken,
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I've asked you to bring the matter of my expulsion and the Torrey Hawks refused renewal before the Board this October. I've asked you to make the case, and make a motion, and request a roll call vote. Whatever you do will reflect on you. Whatever the Board does will reflect on them. That's as it should be. All I can do is be sure that everyone knows about it.

Ken Andrews, for the record, can your report the actions you took at the October 2017 USHPA Board meeting in response to my requests above?


Silence from Ken Andrews. But then what could he say that wouldn't make him look even worse? What do you think Tim Herr's advice has been?

In the mean time, USHPA SOP 12-02.02 J is ticking along ... any pilot whose membership lapses for 3 years has to pay a USHPA instructor for re-education training to have their ratings restored (this spring of 2018 for me). I guess when the RRRG funds start running low USHPA can randomly expel people to drum up an income stream for their cronies to let them back in.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

To make it short, I am complying with USHPA unconditional surrender and disarming immediately and all future Bob show storylines provided an altered USHPA role showing them as a friend to our cause, as a condition of your membership restoration. But, the attack computer app has no off switch.

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I tried this but it didn't work

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

NASA to announce existence of alien life on Thursday?
Discovery aided by AI?

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These Delta wings have king-posts.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So Google AI can find planets way faster than human astronomers. But did they have long hair? Do pilots with long hair survive more?

The Military did a study that says yes.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Calling USHPA's Bluff Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Topics on forums do have a way of wandering ... all over the place!!

As a reminder, I've quoted the post (below) that started this topic back in April of 2016 when Ken Andrews was a new Director.

In the two years of Ken's term he was unable to provide a definitive response to my request that he explicitly state what I needed to do for him to support reinstating my membership so I could fly at what he called "USHPA sites" (like Sylmar) again.

Since Ken hasn't been able to do that, the alternate approach has been to make less sites "USHPA sites". Several of us have started that process at Dockweiler, and we welcome the help of anyone who wants to free more land (especially public land) from USHPA's monopoly. Contact me any time at 858-204-7499. Thanks.


Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Ken Andrews is a nice enough guy. He follows in the footsteps of many "nice enough" guys Region 3. I would include Bill Helliwell, Dan DeWeese, and Alan Crouse among them. But when it comes to dealing with USHPA's "insiders", Ken is out of his league (and I don't mean the Falcon League).

The USHPA insiders chew up and use "nice enough guys" like pawns. Here's a current example.

A long time Torrey Pilot wrote to Ken complaining about USHPA's unfair expulsion of Bob Kuczewski (that's me). Here's part of Ken's reply:

Ken Andrews wrote:
"I've told Bob many times that if he would stop attacking Torrey and USHPA, then I would work to get his membership reinstated so that he could fly at USHPA sites again. So far, Bob has refused my offers."
- USHPA Region 3 Director Kenneth Andrews, April 16th, 2016


Here's my message to Ken (sent a few minutes ago):

Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Hello Ken (cc/bcc observers),

In a recent message to a USHPA member, you (USHPA Director Ken Andrews)
wrote:

Quote:
"I've told Bob many times that if he would stop attacking Torrey and USHPA, then I would work to get his membership reinstated so that he could fly at USHPA sites again. So far, Bob has refused my offers."

- USHPA Region 3 Director Kenneth Andrews, April 16th, 2016


OK Ken, I'm calling your bluff. Please write up EXACTLY - and in the form of a contract - the precise terms and conditions that I would be required to abide by for you to work to get my USHPA membership reinstated so that I can fly at what you've called "USHPA sites" again. Please write this in an unambiguous and objective manner such that it would be enforceable in a court of law.

I look forward to your reply.

Sincerely,
Bob Kuczewski
858-204-7499


It will be interesting to see Ken's response. If he lists the "purported" reasons for USHPA's expulsion (things like "interfering with instruction" or "endangering tandem pilots on landing"), then they'll be forced to reinstate me because I've never done those things and would agree not to ever do them (as we all should). But if he lists the real reasons (things like "to be a USHPA member, you can't be critical of USHPA" or "to be a USHPA member, you can't speak to your City Council or testify in a court case") then he's going to show what was really behind the expulsion.

Ken's a smart guy, and it will be interesting to see how he handles this one. My guess is that USHPA (and Tim Herr) will urge him to find an excuse to avoid answering altogether. That's my prediction. But like I said, it will be interesting to see what happens.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This just in!

BobK,

You have deposed Mark Forbes. Matt Henzi has been elected into his seat.

https://www.ushpa.org/page/2018-regional-director-election-results


Ken Andrews has been reelected!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

dhmartens wrote:
This just in!

BobK,

You have deposed Mark Forbes. Matt Henzi has been elected into his seat.

https://www.ushpa.org/page/2018-regional-director-election-results


Ken Andrews has been reelected!


WOW!!!!!!!

That's BIG news.!!!!


Regional Director PLURALITY

matt hanzi 1 vote (0.3%)
mark forbes 3 votes (1.0%)
NOT mumbo gumbo flatulence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1 vote (0.3%)
Tom Johns 1 vote (0.3%)
Mark Forbes (I) 135 votes (46.7%)
Matt Henzi 148 votes (51.2%)

Matt Henzi wins with 51.2% of the vote.


Thanks Doug!!!!!!!
I saw it here first on the good old Sylmar Forum. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:12 am    Post subject: And now for the bad news ... Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

And now for the bad news ...

As I was posting your good news on the U.S. Hawks Forum, I remembered that the USHPA Board can effectively thwart the will of the members by appointing their cronies as "At Large" Directors to keep them in power. It wouldn't surprise me to see that happen in this case.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I don't want to violate the peace treaty but I feel compelled to post.

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I hope the new year brings us luck and blessings.

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Maybe it wasn't BobK that brought a new level of safety to Torrey, but possibly a lucky pig mascott.

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http://www.luckymojo.com/luckypig.html
"..During the late 19th and early 20th centuries, the image of a white pig (almost never a spotted, belted, or brown breed) is used as a lucky charm in Germany, Austria, England, and Ireland, as well as among Anglo-Americans. .."


Now that I am hungry I just noticed duck feet resemble Delta wings.

Ducks may have appeared on Earth 200 million years ago and a severed foot may have flown back then.


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In other news a Hang Glider Market research report was released(not free)
https://www.slideshare.net/sagarsd2/global-glider-market-research-report-2016-76728385
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: And now for the bad news ... Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bob Kuczewski wrote:
And now for the bad news ...

... the USHPA Board can effectively thwart the will of the members by appointing their cronies as "At Large" Directors to keep them in power. It wouldn't surprise me to see that happen in this case.


Now that it's 2018, does Mark Forbes still show up as any kind of Director or committee chairman?

Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sure if he wears an Albatross.
/* John Cleese drops the f bomb language warning */

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If this was a pro Forbes thread we might compare him to JT Kirk saving the Enterprise B and falling into a nexus ribbon to Forbes concentrating on a software update and falling to an election blindside.

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The emperor foresaw his falling, but is he redeemable with the light side of the force.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: And now for the bad news ... Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bob Kuczewski wrote:
Now that it's 2018, does Mark Forbes still show up as any kind of Director or committee chairman?


Oops. I see that I wasn't clear there. I was wondering if he's still showing up on USHPA's lists as a "Director at Large" or as "Treasurer" or as "Insurance Committee chairman".
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The election results were the last official communication he made that I can see. He is on the BOD of the RRG.

Oh no! - we(BobK assist team) have been shut down. How did they pull that off.

even if we have to use an abacus we will continue to research the organic hang glider design.




Engineers are reverse engineering the leading edge and keel components.

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