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Jim



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The USHPA is made up of all of us who choose to participate, a group of people who believe it's in our interest to act as one. Apparently, most of us believe that those we elected are doing a pretty good job, otherwise, we'd be flocking to another organization that does more than offer a forum for the disenfranchised.

Just as enough of those members (in our area) once thought it was in their best interest to find a new representative and acted upon that, I would posit that most members familiar with this issue (all members at the time of the expulsion were notified) find no good reason to support a change in the status quo.

However, you continue to attack Ken Andrews as if only your interest matters. I for one, would not vote for Ken again, if he decided to unilaterally take up this issue. My guess is that he's not fielding a lot of requests from members in your favor. He's too moral to accept his responsibilities as our director and not act on our wishes, if we made them known.

So, your problem is not with Ken. It is with all members who either:
1) don't support your behavior,
2) don't care about the issue or
3) are ignorant of your plight.

Have you considered why the first two could possibly be true, after all that you have self-documented?

I believe a professional public relations entity would be your best course of action, rather than continuing to fill our small club's forum with stale reminders off how awful we've all (USHPA members) treated you.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Jim, you've dodged my questions:

Bob Kuczewski wrote:
How familiar are you with the facts in the case?

For starters, are you aware that my expulsion was based on 4 charges:

1. That I started the U.S. Hawks.
2. That I spoke to my city council.
3. That I testified in a court case.
4. That I interfered with Torrey Pines flight operations.

Are those the reasons that you feel justify my expulsion from USHPA?

They did that in your name. How certain are you that it was justified?

There's a lesson to be learned from the Salem Witch Trials and from Nazi Germany. A small group of people can lead a large group of sheeple down some very dark paths. I asked you those questions to decide whether you're an independent thinker or a blind follower. I think you've answered that for me. Thanks.

As for Ken, he volunteered for the job. He also knows very well that my expulsion was unjustified. But just like you he has to try to convince himself that it was deserved to relieve his guilt of inaction. It's psychology 101, and USHPA has played you both like fiddles. Now neither of you can answer simple questions about justice and injustice because you've backed yourselves into corners that you can't escape. You're forced to make blanket statements like "members who ... don't support your behavior" without the ability to cite any specific behavoir. You cite USHPA's one-sided letter, but why didn't USHPA distribute my defense to everyone? You know the answer, but you don't like it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This battlefield assessment is brought to you by "Bud Select 55" because I lost 25 lbs over 3 months drinking the stuff and can now fly a sport 3 155.


BOB, of all the directors that voted to expel you very few are left in their elected position.

Let me know of any corrections.
The USHPA minutes go on to reflect that after Tim Herr's presentation, Felipe Amunátegui introduced a motion to terminate my membership. Felipe's motion was seconded by Bill Belcourt. Here's the vote:

XRegion 1: Mark Forbes Yes xxx12/2017
?Region 1: Rich Hass (didn't vote)
*Region 1: Paul Murdoch Yes 2017 *director at large*
*Region 2: Jugdeep Aggarwal Yes 2018
XRegion 2: Josh Cohn Yes xxx 12/2017
XRegion 2: Jon James Yes xxx didnt run 2017
*Region 2: Steve Rodrigues Yes *director at large*
Region 3: Corey Caffrey Absent ???? he voted yes????
Region 3: Alan Crouse Abstained
XRegion 3: Pete Michelmore Yes
*Region 4: Bill Belcourt Yes 2018
*Region 4: Ken Grubbs Yes
XRegion 5: Josh Pierce Yes xxx 12/2017 didnt run
Region 6&11: David Glover Yes
*Region 7: Paul Olson Yes
xRegion 8: Michael Holmes Yes gone??
*Region 9: Felipe Amunátegui Yes 2017 *director at large*
*Region 9: Larry Dennis Yes
Region 9: Art Greenfield Absent
Region 9: Dennis Pagen Absent (was there asleep)
*Region 10: Steve Kroop Yes 2018
Region 10: Jamie Shelden Absent
Region 10: Matt Taber Absent ??????????
xRegion 10: Bruce Weaver Yes gone???
*Region 12: Paul Voight Yes 2018
Region 12: Ryan Voight Yes 2017-2018
tiki masky ??? region 6 ????? said yes but in a "no" tone

Tim Herr, california bar association, didn't vote

*Region 2: Jugdeep Aggarwal
*Region 2: Steve Rodrigues Yes *director at large*
*Region 4: Bill Belcourt Yes 2018
*Region 4: Ken Grubbs Yes
*Region 7: Paul Olson Yes
*Region 9: Felipe Amunátegui Yes 2017 *director at large*
*Region 9: Larry Dennis Yes
*Region 10: Steve Kroop Yes 2018
Region 12: Paul Voight Yes 2018

are these the remaining bod that voted against you?


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Bob Kuczewski



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Doug,

Your post nicely reflects your perceptive nature ... right down to Tiki Mashi's vote. Nice job!! Smile

I actually called Tiki recently. During my expulsion hearing, she had asked some very pertinent questions that I'll paraphrase here:

Quote:
We don't like Bob testifying in court, right? We don't like Bob speaking to his City Council, right? We don't like Bob starting the U.S. Hawks, right?

So how does expelling him keep him from doing any of those things?


That was one of the right questions to ask. It cut right to the heart of the matter. Good job Tiki!! Other right questions might have been:

Quote:
Bob's been speaking to the City Council about Torrey since 2008. It's now 2015. Is there an SOP against this? If not, have we ever even warned Bob that he can't speak to his City Council in all those years? Not once? And where's the SOP against starting other hang gliding associations? Didn't Bob start the U.S. Hawks way back in 2010? And haven't we known about it all this time? And since it's not in our SOP's, how was Bob supposed to know he'd be expelled for it? And how many warnings did we issue to let Bob know that he couldn't create an alternate hang gliding association in those 5 years? None?!? And now we're suddenly expelling him? Really??


But Mark Forbes and Tim Herr and several other members of USHPA's "rotten core" wouldn't have any of it. Mark shut down Tiki's objections and there wasn't another Director with a backbone in the boardroom.

Human beings are designed to go along with the majority. In tribal cultures, being an outcast meant certain death. That's why people instinctively avoid going against the majority ... especially an angry majority. And USHPA was angry. They'd just had there tail handed to them in a court case where I had documented written evidence of me warning them about an incident in 2010 that foreshadowed the 2011 Hamby accident nearly perfectly. If you know anything about psychology, you'll know that some people get extra mad when they know they're in the wrong. That was the USHPA Board in the spring of 2015.

With those thoughts in mind, I give Tiki a lot of credit for speaking up. If one other Director had found the courage to back her up there might have been a different outcome. Sadly, there wasn't, and that reflects the "go along to get along" nature of USHPA's board. My outspoken calls for things like open voting and due process were no fit for that crew. Like oil and water.

I've been criticized for being hard on Ken Andrews. But the reality is that I was very hopeful that he would speak up and rally support from other Directors (like Tiki). I waited patiently during the early part of Ken's term, but he's slowly been "assimilated" into the Borg of USHPA. I can't wait forever.

Breaking USHPA's monopoly at Dockweiler last year was just a first step. Other sites are being planned for 2018 and 2019. In some ways my expulsion has been one of USHPA's biggest blunders. And Ken is failing his duty as a Director (in many ways) by not having the backbone to fix it.

Thanks for posting the voting record Doug. It's a nice reminder of why we're building an alternative to USHPA. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I looked to see who survived the onslaught and what "sheild-generator" they used. Jugdeep Aggarwal says on his flight blog that he is "DRAMA FREE".
This crashed my "AI" what does it mean? Is Drama free the future of Ushpa?
If BobK signed a pledge to "Remain drama free while he is on probation after his membership is restored" would Jugdeep vote to restore him so we all could avoid future drama?

google "drama free":

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Maybe Jugdeep is a New World Man.

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He has a pair of special sunglasses.

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Some animated hang glider flying in this video half way into it.

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Bob Kuczewski



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Doug wrote:
BOB, of all the directors that voted to expel you very few are left in their elected position.

It's too late. This month will be 3 years. All the ratings I earned through Joe Greblo and Rob McKenzie and Ken Baier will vanish in a few weeks. There's a special place in you know where for Regional Directors like Ken Andrews and Alan Crouse who sat by and did nothing for over 2 years of that time.

And Ken Andrews also watched the Torrey Hawks chapter not be renewed on his watch with no reason given.

I can proudly say - and everyone knows it's true - that I would NEVER have silently allowed anyone or any club in my region to be treated that way under my watch. It wouldn't have mattered if they were my closest friend or my worst enemy. Everyone was treated fairly under my Directorship. Neither Ken Andrews nor Alan Crouse can say that.

Whenever you see Ken Andrews or Alan Crouse, take a deep look into their eyes to see what kind of a human being would allow that to be done with their silent approval.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:26 pm    Post subject: Re: And now for the bad news ... Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Last December, Doug noted that Mark Forbes lost the election in his Region. I was initially optimistic until I gave it some thought. Then I posted this:

Bob Kuczewski on Dec. 22nd, 2017 wrote:
And now for the bad news ...

As I was posting your good news on the U.S. Hawks Forum, I remembered that the USHPA Board can effectively thwart the will of the members by appointing their cronies as "At Large" Directors to keep them in power. It wouldn't surprise me to see that happen in this case.


Guess what ... Mark Forbes shows up as a "Director at Large" on USHPA's web site. I can read them like a book ... and a trashy book at that.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bob, put on the sunglasses and look at Ushpa. It reads "Tim Herr private insurance monopoly". It looks like he is the one calling the shots. I mean who doesn't take the advise of their lawyer? Those middle fingers at Torrey were aimed at him, not you.

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I could use my immunity to defeat him directly.

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But that could be an ethical violation as I have stated my desire to start my own organization to compete with his private organization.

Ushpa offers insurance at over 150 sites at $150. That's less than $1 per site per year. Sounds like a Fair exchange.

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Spring Air is here

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

It took a possible rift in the space time continuum to realize nicotine could have caused the Torrey fiasco.

http://www.ushawks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2955&sid=a9c492bea3b28702fa99f9719eed4a88


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I now believe a portal/stargate has opened between Sylmar LZ 2/11/2012 and
Moore Memorial Park, Ames Iowa 8/23/1984 and that I must fly through it a second time to return space time continuum to its normal trajectory.

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At any rate Cutter reported we had a Summer Breeze this week.

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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

We missed you at Dockweiler today Doug!! I hope you enjoyed your day whatever you did.

For the record, Joe Greblo and I had a long conversation after the meet. It went something like this (my own summary and paraphrasing):

Bob: "Should USHPA have expelled me for the things listed in their expulsion letter?"

Joe: "They had a right to do that."

Bob: "That's not what I asked. Should USHPA have expelled me for the things listed in my expulsion letter?"

Joe: "I would have advised against it."

Bob: "Will you say that publicly?"

Joe: "No."

There was a lot of related discussion and a number of questions that Joe couldn't or wouldn't answer (like should USHPA expel members for things that aren't spelled out in the SOPs without any warning, and should Ken Andrews have silently allowed USHPA to not renew the Torrey Hawks Chapter).

Overall, I was very disappointed in Joe's responses.

Joe, if you feel any of this is inaccurate, please feel free to post your version.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

California keeps trying to hit me with $1500 fines so now the AI reveled this.
A double murder at Torrey in 1978 and 1984 just solved with a strange unexplainable paranormal link.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dna-results-stun-in-california-beach-cold-case/

The AI will now perform a pincer movement on the Ushpa California legal team to force them to restore your membership by this fall.


The Feds have infiltrated the California Bar association and can controll outcomes from this perspective.
http://www.newser.com/story/259700/83-charged-in-crackdown-on-mexican-mafia-prison-gang.html

The Feds have also infiltrated the FAA under the guise of hiring practice
so you know they have your tandem exemption by the balls.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/06/07/revamped-lawsuit-vows-to-expose-discrimination-in-obama-faas-diversity-hiring/


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The state of California lets Bob fly at their beaches with city insurance, why is that not good enough for Ushpa?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

And now the long awaited series final.
Brought to you by BitBurger Drive nonalcoholic beer.

4 out of 4 experts won't say this is not beer.
2 of those 4 experts say Keystone Light is not beer.

Ushpa will get a tandem exemption from "Space Traffic Management"

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extraterrestrial suspect interrogation in 1964 denies time travel and murder in part 2.

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Carnage list:
The suspect entity murdered Singer Whitney houston 2/2012 and then passed thru the Sylmar triangle
to August 23 1984 to Moore memorial park as 80s band Syntax plays ghostbusters theme.
Entity travels to Torrey Pines and murders girl that night.
Entity travels back to 1978 and murders another girl at Torrey pines with same grizzley details.
Police recently solve cold case murders with no explanation for details link.
Ghost forces beachcomber who found the body to jump from 14 story building
Convicted murderer kills self on August 1984 aniversary.
Unusual paraglider carnage at Torrey Pines and BobK confrontations.
Fatal paraglider crash behind congressional fundraiser at mansion.
Paraglider suicide.

Tic Tac ufo spotted ~100 miles off shore at Torrey 2004.



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Paul Hellyer Canadian Minister of National Defense 1963-1967
intense feelings(mind control) from et.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgrCQpWz6iI&t=2487s

video of Creek Fire shows ufo pass thru Sylmar Triangle Stargate Dec 5, 2017 (4 minute mark)
https://youtu.be/EaDhCJeJomE?t=4m


We look forward to BobK having his membership restored.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

They tried operating the Sylmar Triangle Stargate without the operating instructions and started a brushfire.


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Leaving a trail of smoke proves the glider entering the Stargate is the same glider exiting the Stargate.

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next: Mormon controlled ghost chickens destroy my real estate as a show of force (let it be a warning) to back BobK being allowed to fly SHGA and Southern California.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:22 am    Post subject: Politics in Song Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That was hilarious Doug!!! Thanks!

Here's a blast from my own past. I think it was the 1972 Presidential election (Nixon v. McGovern), and I had commandeered my Dad's reel to reel tape machine to record music off the radio. I happened to capture a song that went something like this:

Quote:
A candidate went riding out
One dark and windy day.
He had to make a speech
but didn't have a thing to say.

Then all at once upon his desk
A dog eared speech he saw
Outlining all his policies
Without a single flaw.

Yippee Aye Ohhhh
Yippee Aye Ayyyyy
Ghost Writers in...
The sky


Now by the speech an order blank
Was laid out plain to see.
It listed all the speeches out
From one to fifty three.

He ordered speeches
41 and 24 and 6.
And with them bravely in his hand
Went out to win the sticks.

He spoke at mighty rallies
Thought he had them on the run
Until he found his opponent had...
Number 51.

Yippee Aye Ohhhh
Yippee Aye Ayyyyy
Ghost Writers in...
The sky


He telephoned the writer
For his money back guarantee.
The writer said the speech to use
Was number 53.

He ordered number 53.
The speech was really great.
He won the nomination ...
On his opponent's slate.

Yippee Aye Ohhhh
Yippee Aye Ayyyyy
Ghost Writers in...
The sky



I haven't heard that recording since at least the mid 70's so I apologize to the author for any mistakes in my recollection.

I think of that song during every political season. Thanks for prompting me to document it Doug. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This BobK spoiler post is brought to you by the ghost chickens for vote yes on Prop 12.


Bobk stumbled on the information like Scooby Doo
"would have gotten away with it except for those meddling kids"

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Ufo used mind control so Mitt Romney dropped out 2012(missing last month) and 2016 elections.


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After visiting his San Diego (beach house) he dropped out.
he choked on a tic tac (ufo)

(warning Trump clip)

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He is now ineligible to be president (tampered with by ufo)
Now that they know what happened he is concentrating on the Senate and assured victory.




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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paraglider-killed-after-crashing-into-roof-of-mormon-church-in-utah/
http://www.good4utah.com/news/local-news/paraglider-dies-after-crashing-into-lds-chapel/538383895
I told them of the "Church roof crash" and they (LDS)believed me.
They are rewarding BobK for stumbling on important information
and making come true the Deseret Prophecy
Utah and Los Angeles don't require insurance.

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(all is well at Torrey clip)

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Meanwhile the tic tac ufo has moved to the northwest
(crazy pilot story)
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/seattle-area-authorities-respond-report-plane-stolen-plume-smoke-n899861

Former Pilot Christian tracks it(something that doesn't have a name) via sailboat.

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next post... The operating instructions of the Sylmar Triangle Stargate published.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2018 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rolling Eyes

Doug !
What's up, why aren't you flying?
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Vrezh wrote:
Rolling Eyes

Doug !
What's up, why aren't you flying?


Yes, come out and fly Dockweiler with us. Monday looks good and I'll be picking up my new (to me) Alpha 210. If you've got your permit, you only have to pay for parking (no day use fee). Come and join us. Smile
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My return to flight date might be January 3rd. Right now I am remodeling the kitchen so it matches the rest of the place that was remodeled after the burst pipe and flood.
(Yes, insurance is a good idea)
January 3rd I will also know if I have access to an ultralight/tow flight park in Lancaster CA(will ushpa insurance cover operations?)

Publishing the secrets of the stargate may end this civilization, so another one can form.


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