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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I guess this is being "personal" but this is Bob's typical path of being removed from flying forums. First is threads are moved/split into different sections. Then his threads are locked. Then he's banned. I think this is the last forum he's can contribute to.

Hanggilding.org BANNED
Paraglidingforum.com BANNED
ozreport.com BANNED
crestlinesoaring.org BANNED
shga.com ???

Fulfill your destiny Bob.
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Bob Kuczewski



Joined: 06 Jul 2009
Posts: 552
Location: San Diego

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:06 am    Post subject: Due Process Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

OP wrote:
It just seems you've spending a tremendous amount of time/money on this. Created multiple web sites. Hired lawyers. Made numerous 'visits' to the city board. Been arrested a bunch of time. Recalled from USHPA. Ejected from USHPA. Kicked off every nation wide HG web forum.

OP wrote:
I guess this is being "personal" but this is Bob's typical path of being removed from flying forums. First is threads are moved/split into different sections. Then his threads are locked. Then he's banned. I think this is the last forum he's can contribute to.

Hanggilding.org BANNED
Paraglidingforum.com BANNED
ozreport.com BANNED
crestlinesoaring.org BANNED
shga.com ???

Fulfill your destiny Bob.


There are systems with due process and systems without due process.

I was arrested 3 times, and I spent 3 separate 12 hour periods in jail.
All 3 times I posted bail, and all three times I appeared for my trial date.
All 3 times no charges had been filed and all 3 times my bail was returned.
Now I have a pretty good case for false arrest and false imprisonment.
I can now go to Torrey Pines any time just like any other citizen. They don't say a word.
That's a system with due process.

USHPA could not list a single SOP that I had broken in 10 years of flying.
I was not allowed to face my accusers who filed false charges against me.
I was not allowed to have legal representation - while USHPA was.
I was not allowed to present witnesses to any of the events I was charged with.
I was judged not by a jury of peers but by the people who wanted me gone.
That's a system without due process.

All of the forums you've mentioned fall into that latter category.
In all cases, there were no rules broken. There were no SOPs violated.
In all cases there was no jury of peers, and in most cases the decision
was made by a single person with a vested interest in silencing me.

So far, the Sylmar moderators haven't gone down that road. Good on them.

You, on the other hand, seem very desperate to silence me. Shame on you OP.
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Ken Andrews
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Location: Pasadena

PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:09 am    Post subject: No due process Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The SHGA pilot forum is a system without due process.

-Ken (forum moderator)
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Bob Kuczewski



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: Due Process Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Bob Kuczewski wrote:
So far, the Sylmar moderators haven't gone down that road. Good on them.


I did qualify my post with "So far".
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