remember Bob Lazar, the Area 51 "quack?"

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remember Bob Lazar, the Area 51 "quack?"

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Not so much of a duck now...Hydrogen Corvette!
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Surely no longer quacking...

Bob Lazar, the UFO informant, has made his own particle accelerator to produce "hydride" that stores hydrogen in his corvette?

How do I invest?
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just write a check out to me, and i'll, uh, get it to him.
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Yea, I ain't buying it. I don't believe there is any force on earth that could prevent a simple, economical solution to energy like this from being developed and sold. No matter who you think would be trying to prevent this from happening, the incentive is far more than what's needed to make it happen IF IT WORKED.

Big oil, or the U.S. government, or GM ain't gonna stop the Chicoms, North Korea the Europeans or any number of well funded private parties from exploiting such a thing. Many nations are punished far more than us by their dependence on foreign oil. We can't even prevent broken third world countries from making nuclear weapons, no matter how much we try, we certainly couldn't stop them from doing this when they need it far more than us.

It simply isn't workable yet, and I suspect one main problem is the economics of the electricity needed. Solar and wind are both far more expensive than coal, and even coal power would not produce Hydrogen through electrolysis efficiently enough to compete with gasoline. I would guess that the electrolysis system shown here produces less than half the chemical energy that it consumes in electricity producing the hydrogen.

The give away is when he says: "If you are using solar or wind it doesn't cost you anything so who cares how much it takes." Solar and wind both cost plenty. Even with subsidies the return on investment for either is around 20 years which is usually longer than the life of the systems.

Anyway, that's my opinion, but I'm not an engineer. I'm hardly even a hang glider pilot.
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I would have been more intrigued if he started the car. It appeared more like a man looking for investors to buy into his idea.
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There are lots of ICE (internal combustion engines) hydrogen cars. The magic that Lazar claims is the storage. A metal hydride is a storage technique, however I don't know of one that would require particle acceleration to make.

I doubt that a guy who was arrested for felony pandering was working at the same time at area 51. I doubt a guy with multiple degrees from CalTech and MIT would also enroll in entry level electronics classes at Pierce college in the valley.
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When I was in high school, my friend's father invested in the company of his friend who claimed to have developed a perpetual motion automobile motor, based on static electricity. The father fanatically supported the validity of the concept; so did many others. Even though my friend knew perpetual motion was a myth, he conformed to his father's belief and spent most of his savings for stock.

A year later, the developer was on TV... Doing the perp-wallk. The shares? Useless paper.

Just goes to show you, no matter how adamantly someone believes in an idea, it just isn't necessarily true.

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He never operated the car in the video. No one has fact checked that the Hydride isn't commercially available.

The interesting aspect of this story is SHGA Member Megan worked as a technical advisor for the History Channel's Ufo Hunters which did a story on Bob Lazar's claims he worked on reverse engineering UFOS out at area 51 and that the power source was element 115.
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Scientists today are using particle accelerators to creat a few atoms of element 115

"... A team of Russian and American physicists that discovered elements 114 and 116 in 1998 and 2000 now believe they may have created two other superheavy elements – 113 and 115. If confirmed, these results would lend even more weight to the idea of an “island of stability� at the edge of the periodic table (Y Oganessian et al. 2003 Phys. Rev. C 69 021601)..."
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/18954
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Beyond bullshit. So wrong, you can't even call it wrong.

Every element above 83 is unstable. 115 was first created in the 2000s and lasts around 1/1000ths of a second.

Bob Lazar with no evidence claims its stable, and he has 15lbs of it.

When a wise man argues with a fool you can't tell whom is the....

He is convincing that the grey aliens come from Zeta Reticuli and that they abduct and sexually assault people with "probes."
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Did you ever notice that the aliens are not real discriminating about who they probe. They have their choice out of billions and they don't go premium. Hell, if they just put up a poster on a telephone pole they would get lots of volunteers. Offer a few bucks and you got some real hotties, so I'm told.
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What happened to the History Channel? It used to be cool, now it's just nuts.


Lazar should either be put in stocks and pummeled with rotten fruit or immediately elected President of the world. I'm on the fence.
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Reality TV is less expensive to make, and gets better ratings.

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Its hard to prove a negative.
[add humor] If the grey aliens are truly plant based robotic type life, then can vegitarians eat them? [/end humor]

There are a lot of strange lights with unusual flight characteristics that defy a simple explanation.
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Start at 2:22. If you don't believe in UFO's, this guy will change your mind.

Gary Spivey told me about this guy in a dream.

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HA HA! HA HA! GOT YOU ALL! YOU'RE IN A CIVILIZED DIALOGUE AND IT'S NOT ABOUT THE EFFFFFFFFFFFING GAZEBO! He-he-he-he!!!!!!!
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I can't believe the board is so stubborn they will not include a particle accelerator in the gazebo. I even offered to operate the slide rule and abacus that would run the thing. Do we honestly think that a roof is more important than creating our own element 115. We need to get our priorities straight.

I know what I'm talking about - I was on the mother ship, and yes probed....repeatedly. It's not really that bad.
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OKAY! :o
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Post by skygeek AKA Seabass »

Glen you know they are trying to legalize the union of a probee and a prober you might have a chance to live happily ever after next time.
As for the particle accelerator I say we have Busto hold a fundraiser, he is great with money.
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I wouldn't say great, but I no when to say no.:D

When it comes to a particle accelerator, It goes in the category...our club don't need one.
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Is it too early to start talking about gazebo #2? The new, new gazebo. The gazebo to end all gazebos. What about gazebo #3 though?
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