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Re: Falcon League report, July 18

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Ken Andrews wrote:Well done, Falcon League pilots!...........
Well done, Ken! Today was the real proof of concept of the Falcon League and a whole lot of fun. Max and I went head-to-head several times this afternoon. In fact we nearly even had a head-on in from of Towers when our paths converged as we were thermalling in different cores. The scene where I ball up in my cocoon harness should look pretty cool on Max's GoPro camera mounted on his keel. Sadly, my trusty Canon SD870 shut itself off 30 seconds into my flight and so I don't the side view of the same scene. I was reluctant to fly today due to a lingering illness but didn't want to miss the league.

Anyhow, Max and I duked it out above Kagel and while I got side-tracked doing a real low buzz over launch, Max got up and away in a nice bubble that carried him back a ways behind the Kagel spine. By the time I located another core Max was already climbing back up from Locals. As I climbed to about 3700' at Kagel I spotted Max making an attempt to head West from Towers and wasn't going to let him go without a good chase. So I gave up the climb and just aimed for the little ridge above Locals and went on glide. Eventually, Max and I were battling it out at Towers for enough altitude to go on glide for the 1500. Earlier in the while we were briefing each other on Kagel launch, while waiting for the cycles to start, I suggested that it could take as long as 2 hours to work our ways to West Towers and to be patient.

Max and I got to about 3800 or so in front of Towers and we both decided to go on glide for the 1500 at the same time. My radio wasn’t working due to my headset plug being slightly out at the transceiver so I had to keep and eye on Max as we glided out together, getting ever lower and lower. Max was on a Falcon 2 195 and me on a Falcon 3 195. As we made our way out to the 1500 I kept turning my head and looking back and Max kept creeping lower and farther behind, inch by inch. I kept waiting for him to 180 and head back to Locals but he was relentless. The race was on! I got to the 1500 about even and immediately found lift bubbling off the bend in front. I think I got out about two climbing turns as Max arrived below the 1500 and came pretty close to his shadow as he began to scratch his way up.

Eventually he out-thermalled me for the third or forth time for the afternoon and drifted back, above the 2200 to about 4100’ then went on glide for West Towers. I made some tactical errors and needed to glide back out front to the 1500 to get back into the good lift. As I rose up to 4200 above the 2200 I watched in amazement as Max arrived in front of West Towers what seemed to be 200’ below the knoll. I tried to key my mic to let someone know that we may need a retrieve at the Olive View dirt lot but it was to no avail. I went on glide towards West Towers to join Max but after a quarter mile or so I realized I was too under the weather to do it safely and aborted the attempt. As I returned to the 1500 there was Jay on his Falcon and Chip on his Litespeed thermalling over me. I eventually made some good moves and got high but again I didn’t feel well enough to proceed safely downrange and threw in the towel and head back to Towers for some easy flying.

Before I turned around, I’d already seen Max soaring above the actual Towers on the West end of the ridge and was thrilled to know he’d likely make it back. I also watched as Jay went on glide to West Towers from a slightly lower starting point than Max. Jay showed up today sporting his sexy, Wills Wing Litestream control frame and was out to get his money’s worth from the drag reduction. I got high at Towers and decided to give the 1500 another shot and if the air was buoyant I might try for West Towers if it wouldn’t be any work. As I pulled in above the 1500, there was Max skimming the 2200 and just looking like he had command of the entire ridge. It was some of the best looking Falcon soaring I think I’ve ever seen. Shortly after that I spotted Jay coming back from West Towers to the 1500 as I was climbing toward the 2200. I didn’t get as high this time and was getting more fatigued and tossed in the towel for the second and last time.

I goofed around and relaxed in the air before finally heading for the LZ and doing a low-speed Falcon spin to get down before I was all spent. Jay was already in the LZ and Max on his way back from Lances. Ken excitedly approached me and asked me how far I’d made it. Naturally, I told his that I crossed both the 14 and the 5 then tagged Oat Mounatin, where I top landed and waited for a strong enough cycle to carry me back as I ate the picnic lunch I had packed inside my cocoon harness. After admonishing Ken that his eyes might stick if he rolled them too hard, I broke down and sobbed that I didn’t have the juice to make it a three-some at W-Towers. Shortly afterward, Max came in for a textbook perfect landing. Then he headed for his truck where he broke out his cooler full of treats. What a guy!

Later we debriefed and I learned that Max has no way of downloading his data from his 5030. Next time, I have to remember to bring my laptop and a cable. We have reached the point where it will be helpful to other prospective Falconeers to be able to look at each others tracks to locate thermal triggers and see just how low we can make these XC treks. At some point, we’ll get Max’s flight track posted. Meanwhile, I uploaded mine to Leonardo on PG Forums here: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/leonardo/flight/230234

My personal best Falcon league effort to date was on May 9th when Greblo me and Max launched the 1500 while Ken, Jay and Eric hiked to the 2200 as Greblo and Max prepared to top land. Because I sank out and headed for Locals on that flight I decided to just fly as far East as I could and landed in La Crescenta: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/leonardo/flight/194244 This was the day that four of the remaining Falcons flew past Kagel in formation and got stuck at Lances. But it was the beginning of the proof of concept. Today’s out and return by two and almost a third of four pilots was the real proof that this works. Eventually, we may see some very impressive downwind flights on non-epic days. In the meantime I still need to get me and Ken’s article for the USHPA Magazine finished. After today, I think we have the missing material that will tie it all together and sell the concept to other clubs.
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Ken and Jonathan you guys did a excellent job describing that beautiful flying day, here is some Video footage off the day sorry the battery pooped at West Towers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1onXOz-3lYk
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Falcon League, Saturday August 1

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Some of us will be celebrating the arrival of August by flying Falcons. We'll meet in the LZ at 11:00 on Saturday morning, like usual. I don't have any grand plans except to fly my new (to me) Falcon, but maybe someone will think of one between now and then.
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Don't forget there will be a memorial event tomorrow as well. I plan to fly my Falcon tomorrow.
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Here is a falcon league flight update from Saturday, only four people showed up for the falcon league Joe Greblo, Ken, Jonathan and myself we decided to launch Lukens and try to make it back to the Sylmar LZ ,since the inversion layer was about 4000 feet and lukens launch is around 5000 feet. Jonathan was the first one to launch he turned immediately right in that direction off little lukens and showed us where to sink is. Joe launched next and turn immediately left and right away he start going up, the sun was blinding me while I watched Joe getting higher and higher so I put my special sunglasses on where I can see at different spectrum of light, there I discover Joe secret he had a pair of invisible wings and they wear flapping that explains why he got to 6200 at Lukan's and it's the only pilot to make it back to the Sylmar lz,Ken was right behind him on his new falcon but had to land at the beehive good job Kenny. I was working on a small thermal in front of BIG T, that's when I saw Jonathan setting up for a landing in the Big T wash after he landed he was waving his arm like he was in some kind distress, so I immediately left my thermal and aimed for that big T. wash to see what kind of help he needs, come to find out after I landed that he was chasing flies that ware buzzing around his head. Anyway that's my excuse to land at the Big T wash. Sorry I had to silent my comment and Jonathan towards the end of that video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQHN1eHpHKA
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Here are some nice photos from Saturday's Falcon League event: http://imageevent.com/aero92/lukens20090801

Max has a wonderful imagination. I'll fill in the details later.

The forecast was for lift to 4200' at Sylmar. We arrived at Lukens and were well above the inversion layer. We spied a raven working thermal lift as we approached the transmitter towers and took that as a good omen. By the time everyone was set up, it was cyling and launch conditions looked promising other than for the overgrown bushes on the hillside.

Greblo and me got into a waiting game and I volunteered to be the launch dummy. I gave my Panasonic camera to our driver George, with instructions on how to shoot in burst mode. He did a good job too. Then I forgot to activate my wing camera which was set to take a high res still photo every 7 seconds.

I launched into a developing cycle and had trouble getting my feet into my cocoon harness and flew past the house thermal near launch, so by the time I tried to turn I was below it. I headed downrange in search of lift and finally was able to climb from 3900' to about 4600' when I realized that I was not going to get back up no matter how many ebans were in that burrito.

Speaking of burrito, we all stopped at the Chioptle Grill near the new Sport Chalet on La Crescenta. That burrito was a life saver for me as I need a lot of fuel before I fly or I get burned out pretty quick. And it was delicious as well.

Meanwhile, Greblo launched and I could see him gradually climb out to what appeared to be 6500 feet from my vantage point. Knowing that I wasn't going to get higher and the day was getting on I decided to jump the Big T wash at 4100' from Little Lukens. I knew from experience that if there wasn't enough lift to scratch up the spine below Bit T, that there wasn't enough lift to get a Falcon back to Kagel, especially with the Westerly headwind. Every time I hooked anything it would carry me back toward the wash. I arrived a few hundred feet below the Big T plateau and while I was scratching I had been observing Greblo coming my way from the North side of the Lukens spine and losing altitude fast. He eventually arrived at the same altitude about 60' off of my wing tip and we duked it out in the same little thermal for a few turns.

I've been under the weather and needed to leave a wide margin for error and elected not to work in too close. Joe made a beeline for the hillside and began working the light ridge lift. Meanwhile Ken Andrews comes streaking in below me and heads for the second spine West of Big T. He hooks something and I head his way but then he starts heading back toward me. I spent what felt like 15 minutes working between 2950 and 3200' but never getting any higher. Ken hung in there undaunted while I was petering out.

I headed out towards the front spine at 2700' where I have picked up some boomers in the past that carried me well past 4000'. All I got was extended scratching and eventually turned toward the bailout just as Max came smoking in about a thousand feet overhead. I lost site of Greblo as I set up my approach, being careful not to fly near the corral where a horse was out exercising. Landing was thankfully uneventful after a 45-minute effort to fly home.

Max must have hit the sink from Hades as he was soon flying overhead and setting up his pattern. Greblo was long gone as max gently set down with no steps. After he did his GoPro mug shot video, we just watched as Ken patiently scratched below ridge level for what felt like a fairly long time. Eventually Ken headed over the top of the plateau and we lost site of him as well. I made a few radio calls to Ken, being careful not to distract him and he reported Greblo flying across Little T Road before he himself pushed Westward.

Ken also relayed our position to George along with some cursory instructions on how to find us. George is a former Hang 2 from way back in the '70s who is recently coming back as a PG pilot. Since he lives locally, he'll be PG-ing at Kagel once he's ready. Driving for us gave him a good chance to scope out the bailouts and get acquainted with places that pilots don't alwys get to see.

After Max and I got on the Windsports truck I tried calling the LZ while en-route. I had a feeling that Ken may not have made it past Beehives due to the headwind and spotty lift and called the LZ. Lynn told me that Greblo made it back but didn't say anything about Ken by the time we got far enough down Little T road for my signal to cut out. At the same time I got ken on the 2-meter and he was all ready to hike out from Beehives, so it was a good call to head that direction.

Ken reported that he landed with a tailwind which explained why Joe made it back in spite of the headwind at Big T. It's always good to follow-up with the other pilots and find out what actually happened rather than relying on guesswork and imagination.

I sincerely hope that more pilots turn out for future Falcon League events. My next flight was on Monday from Towers with my T2 and I felt that Saturday's workout really helped me get the most out of my next flight. I went down to West Towers then over to Big T and it was no easy flight. I was unable to get back across Little T Road over to Lances quite high enough and slid in at Beehives. Literally.
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OK That's it,

I've had enough! No more peripheral ghost mascarading as an SHGA member and hang glider pilot. I am tired of hearing of all the fun had by the likes of Joe, Ken, Max and Jonathan.

I warn you all in advance. I am coming out of semi-retirement to whip some butt in the Falcon League! I don't know whether it was Jonathan's begging to have more Falconeers flying over his head, Max's bad land out excuse or the fact that Falconaut Joe has been able to circle the moon a few times and still make it back to Kagel but you can count me in!

Where do I sign up? When and where is the action?

Guys, I'll have to scramble up a falcon too. Do they make a Falcon 3 275 with carbon leading edges, carbon battens, internal sprogs and an effective VG system :)

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Jim Falcon league is every two weeks, but only qualified falconneers can participate so you would have to go back to the beach and practice on a falcon with those big training wheels or may be a condor if you wait is on the upper scale :)
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Sorry I missed the Falcon League last weekend. I was in Georgia doing family stuff. I did get a chance to fly a Falcon at Lookout Moutain though. I took the opportunity to propagate our reputaton.
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Jim,

Perfect timing - Greblo just received a fresh supply of down-tubes! :o

Seriously, welcome
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Jim;
Welcome back! I'll be glad to loan you a Falcon 195 for at least a couple of flights. Even a 225 if you like.

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Well only two of us showed up for the facon league last weekend, me and Greblo and Greblo was late. We decided on a task to launch low and land high. Unfortunatly the Windsports truck was being used by Andy and the students. We couldn't figgure out a way to tie the gliders to the Corvette for a run to the 1500 launch, so we canceled the task.
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jdevorak wrote:Well only two of us showed up for the facon league last weekend..........
Sorry I missed but I felt that my wife deserved some time with me. My RAV4 will only handle 2 gliders. I need some help attaching brackets to the steel beam under the front bumper so I can carry three gliders safely. It would have been fun to do a 1500 to 2200, but why not do Kagel to 2200 top landing? Why not require flying just below the hairpin turn out front of the 1500 as a waypoint? Could have been Kagel to hairpin then top land 2200, then tag the beehives and back to Kagel or whatever. Let's use our imaginations. I imagine an event that requires multiple top landings and relaunches at different sites along the range among other things.
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Are you sure

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NMERider wrote:... I felt that my wife deserved some time with me.
Are you really sure of this statement? :?


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Re: Are you sure

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Don wrote:
NMERider wrote:... I felt that my wife deserved some time with me.
Are you really sure of this statement? :? ..........
LOLOL - I've offered to have her drive for me and it just doesn't seem to float her boat. So we got to do household errands and gardening projects Saturday while Jay and Joe did what? I don't know.
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Is this week falcon week? I've lost track. I had a nice late day falcon flight last Saturday and I'm ready for more.

Let's do this Jim!
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ericbrown wrote:Is this week falcon week? I've lost track. I had a nice late day falcon flight last Saturday and I'm ready for more..........
No. This was Shark Week at Andy Jackson. Next Saturday is the day to Falconate. It will be good to have you back in the fold.
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OK Falconeers,

Ken could not make it last week but it sounds like he can this up coming Saturday. I need to look at my calendar at work but I am pretty darn certain I am in too.

Jay, Jonathan, Max, Eric, Joe Falconaut and others - why don't you sound off so we know who is in. I'll take you up on that loaner Joe. Thanks!

Jonathan, I don't know about multiple landings on top as I am a little rusty but maybe I can just float around (if possible) until you all are back in the air again.

By the way, my favorite would be one day for all of us to fly downwind together, helping each other to get as far as we can! Maybe a goal to Ave. S? Maybe a goal to Ave. S and back? I guess it would have to be a good day for the last one or both?

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It's looking like I may be taking a group to Marshall this coming Saturday. If not, I'd like to join you guys. It will be good to get Jim flying the ridge on a Falcon. If I can't make it, Jim, you're still welcome to borrow a 195 Falcon from me. Just contact me for its location.

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jimshaw wrote:..........Jay, Jonathan, Max, Eric, Joe Falconaut and others - why don't you sound off so we know who is in..........

Jim, I plan to be there with a different Falcon 3 195 than the one I've been flying. That one is for sale in case anyone here is interested: http://www.shga.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1599
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